tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post9052973687954769087..comments2024-02-12T05:30:13.488-05:00Comments on Fanatic Cook: Beans May Lower Breast Cancer Risk - Color Doesn't MatterBixhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06263963508785739508noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-35531152717892417662009-04-16T09:10:00.000-04:002009-04-16T09:10:00.000-04:00Thanks BixThanks BixAnroshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16723150055204555588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-1594396234723911542009-04-11T17:56:00.000-04:002009-04-11T17:56:00.000-04:001996 *was* just yesterday--so was 1986! '76 was a...1996 *was* just yesterday--so was 1986! '76 was a few months ago.<BR/><BR/>Enriched, of course--I was just scanning it and didn't notice. I love "foliage" as a mnemonic! But at least beans and lentils have it naturally, along w/ greens.Angela and Melindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01595787896658046091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-12369468783413796472009-04-11T17:04:00.000-04:002009-04-11T17:04:00.000-04:00Thanks, Melinda. I didn't know that about lentils...Thanks, Melinda. I didn't know that about lentils.<BR/><BR/>Back when I was in school, the absolute best source for folic acid was green vegetables. Leafies. I used to remember the word "foliage" as a clue on tests for what foods had the most folic acid.<BR/><BR/>But in 1996 (seems like yesterday to me) just about all commercial grains in this country, as I recall that included white rice and of course wheat flour, were enriched with folic acid ... because young women weren't getting enough and the risk of neural tube defects (spina bifida) were relatively high. Incidence came down since enrichment.<BR/><BR/>So, now, if I was in school, "foliage" wouldn't get me though a test as well. How things change.Bixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06263963508785739508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-1215960788775793002009-04-11T16:34:00.000-04:002009-04-11T16:34:00.000-04:00Hey Bix, you'll be happy to hear that your favorit...Hey Bix, you'll be happy to hear that your favorite new food, lentils, also have lots of folate! I was researching it a bit; beans themselves have a lot--white rice (long grain), of all things, has a huge amount of folate, acc. to USDA! Who woulda thunk? Here's the USDA link:<BR/>http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/Data/SR21/nutrlist/sr21w435.pdfAngela and Melindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01595787896658046091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-26478601337035647582009-04-10T20:20:00.000-04:002009-04-10T20:20:00.000-04:00Tee hee! Today for lunch I made a kidney-bean spr...Tee hee! Today for lunch I made a kidney-bean spread w/ garlic, kale, & lemon juice. Mmmm. Tonite we're having smashed potatoes topped with a saute of chanterelles and trumpet mushrooms, leek, kale, a little soy sauce, and--BEANS!!!! <BR/>So you're right: OMG, more greens!Angela and Melindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01595787896658046091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-68491257878336934882009-04-10T16:10:00.000-04:002009-04-10T16:10:00.000-04:00Oh my god, more greens.Oh my god, more greens.Bixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06263963508785739508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-25562085373468468522009-04-10T11:50:00.000-04:002009-04-10T11:50:00.000-04:00Here's a link to the original research re drinking...Here's a link to the original research re drinking--and it's folate or folic acid specifically among the B vites that's the significant nutrient, according to the study.<BR/>http://www.bmj.com/cgi/rapidpdf/bmj.38551.446470.06v1<BR/>You can complete a free registration to look at BMJ articles.Angela and Melindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01595787896658046091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-53308799389923274362009-04-10T11:35:00.000-04:002009-04-10T11:35:00.000-04:00Further to my previous comment to Ruby about moder...Further to my previous comment to Ruby about moderate drinking, I finally found the articles--linked to NutritionData blog. Here are two of them: http://blog.nutritiondata.com/ndblog/2009/02/todays-poll-wil.html<BR/>http://stayhealthy-livewell.com/articles.php?id=6Angela and Melindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01595787896658046091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-77394621779271977052009-04-10T10:59:00.000-04:002009-04-10T10:59:00.000-04:00Ruby, I am trying to deal w/ the same issue (enjoy...Ruby, I am trying to deal w/ the same issue (enjoying my wine but not wanting to up my risk of b. cancer). I've cut way back on the amount I drink, and I mix it w/ water (like the French, only more water) and some de-alcoholized wine--Ariel brand).<BR/><BR/>But just recently I read an article--and I'm frustrated that I can't remember where--that said that women who drink (hopefully moderately) need to balance the heart/cardio benefits of moderate drinking against the breast cancer risk. So you look at your family history--is there a strong history of heart problems and very little cancer? Then consider drinking, but in moderation. If vice versa, then try to avoid drinking. The article also suggested making sure you get plenty of B vitamins, as for some reason, they seem to combat the deleterious cancer-risk effects of moderate drinking.<BR/><BR/>Bix, you may have some thoughts on this--meantime, if I can find the article, I'll post the link.Angela and Melindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01595787896658046091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-72156117231252483512009-04-10T10:12:00.000-04:002009-04-10T10:12:00.000-04:00Anrosh:1. Yes, when you cook the bean and drain i...Anrosh:<BR/><BR/>1. Yes, when you cook the bean and drain it, you drain away antioxidants. (As you said, you drain away some oligosaccharides that cause gas too, which can be preferable.)<BR/><BR/>2. You should, by all means, cook beans. You can soak them before cooking or not. (You could sprout them but that wasn't tested in this study.)<BR/><BR/>3. The beans used in this study were boiled, then canned. The cans were opened and drained. The remainder, which had few antioxidants left, were dried and ground to a powder (after being cooked), then added to the rat's food. (The rats ate a lot, 60% of the dry weight of their food.) Even after all that processing the beans still had anti-cancer properties.<BR/><BR/>4. Cooked beans are still relatively high in protein. A half cup cooked kidney beans have about 7 grams of protein.Bixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06263963508785739508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-6028147562497768812009-04-10T10:00:00.000-04:002009-04-10T10:00:00.000-04:00bix -- i am getting confused here.so when i cook t...bix -- i am getting confused here.<BR/><BR/>so when i cook the red beans ( and drain the soaking liquid to decrease gasiousness when i cook the bean -- I am draining the antioxidants.<BR/><BR/>And the bean before cooking which is all protein is now considered a carbohyrate with some antioxidant properties ?<BR/><BR/>so i should consider powedering the bean ( for best results ) and not soaking and cooking them ?Anroshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16723150055204555588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-75192767180630013262009-04-10T07:52:00.000-04:002009-04-10T07:52:00.000-04:00Nice of you to add the comment on how this might n...Nice of you to add the comment on how this might not fit in with some so called 'diets' out there.<BR/><BR/>In my two years of actively pursuing a healthier eating lifestyle I have come to the conclusion that balance is the key.<BR/><BR/>The trick to me is to find the bits of information that make sense to you in the space and time you are at at the moment and use your best judgments to come up with a sensible eating plan. You can go low carb sometimes, low fat sometimes, low protein sometimes, or the opposite, but balance it out and keep it REAL - I love what Suzanne Somers says:<BR/><BR/>"Eat real food. If you can pick it, pluck it, milk it or shoot it, you can eat it!"BizBuzzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01169866296589687627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-18675210264988735272009-04-09T15:47:00.000-04:002009-04-09T15:47:00.000-04:00So one possible takeaway here is to eat beans with...So one possible takeaway here is to eat beans with your booze to cancel each other out? ;-)<BR/><BR/>I'm glad to have seen this post, Bix. Thank you. So often the media report when something is found to increase risk of cancer (also helpful information, certainly), but it's nice to read about something that could prevent it. <BR/><BR/>Or maybe it's just my perception. I'm still reeling from the study that essentially said that any amount of alcohol in women can increase the risk. I like wine, so that one hurt, I gotta tellya.Rubynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-62090582330985387732009-04-09T11:38:00.000-04:002009-04-09T11:38:00.000-04:00Melinda, I didn't think anyone would notice that.T...Melinda, I didn't think anyone would notice that.<BR/><BR/>They tested fiber, but only "crude fiber," and didn't find any correlation. Although your thinking is in the ballpark of my thinking ... maybe it's some secondary effect of some carbohydrate component (fiber is a carb component).<BR/><BR/>The carb component could be a resistant starch or a type of fiber (soluble? fermentable?) that would (is known to) decrease insulin resistance (IR) (increased IR is linked to breast cancer), or that binds to estrogens and removes them via feces (estrogen removal decreases hormone-dependant cancers). <BR/><BR/>Another idea ... Something could be inhibiting the activity of aromatase. Aromatase is an enzyme that converts male hormone (or precursors) to female hormone. If you inhibit aromatase (as some drugs are designed to do) you make less female hormone, and so you decrease cancer risk.<BR/><BR/>By the way, alcohol is a known aromatase <EM>enhancer</EM> (in both men and women), which means the more alcohol you drink, the more female hormone you make. That's one theory behind the link between alcohol consumption and breast cancer.Bixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06263963508785739508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-87918403824569291682009-04-09T10:41:00.000-04:002009-04-09T10:41:00.000-04:00Good grief, I thought you were joking about Breath...Good grief, I thought you were joking about Breatharian--but it's *true*!!!<BR/>Re what gives beans their anticancer activity, I might guess fiber, but I suppose they all have fiber, so perhaps not. I doubt it's the iron.... Relatively low glycemic load? I really have no idea! I like Ronald's answer!Angela and Melindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01595787896658046091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-33774386723037840912009-04-09T08:55:00.000-04:002009-04-09T08:55:00.000-04:00Beans allow you to expel toxins from the body in a...Beans allow you to expel toxins from the body in a gaseous manner.Ronaldnoreply@blogger.com