tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post4336149602594781251..comments2024-02-12T05:30:13.488-05:00Comments on Fanatic Cook: Carrageenan, Its Use Doesn't GelBixhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06263963508785739508noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-63013940384096258182011-08-14T12:36:54.335-04:002011-08-14T12:36:54.335-04:00It could be that the type of seaweed that is used ...It could be that the type of seaweed that is used is different. They use 3 different types (kappa, lambda, iota) for mainstream production in the US / Philippines, and they aren't necessarily the 'red moss' to which I believe you are referring. <br />As far as I know they do not have chemicals added; it just undergoes processing (boiling down, perhaps, like when it is used for gelatin). But anything that changes form has potential to alter composition at a molecular level. <br />I have never heard of carrageenan being good for the digestive system; in fact, several studies show otherwise (I can find the citations if you'd like.) However, I have heard it is good for several other things, including an HPV preventative.<br />The results are a case by case basis. Many 'all natural' ingredients and foods can be harmful to certain people. For instance, some people are allergic to peanut butter and some are not.<br />So perhaps the seaweed that is used in Ireland is not the same; perhaps there aren't many cases because people have built an immunity since it is a cultural food... It is hard to know what the difference is or if there are any, but maybe this information is a start.lelumariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16910112540690959953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-75268891954754132752011-08-13T14:11:36.907-04:002011-08-13T14:11:36.907-04:00I live in ireland and my parents always made a des...I live in ireland and my parents always made a dessert from carrageen moss seaweed that was given to us anytime we were sick as it was said to be nourishing and easy on the tummy. I am amazed to read all this negative information about it. Can anyone clarify if the carageen that causes stomach upset etc is one that has undergone some kind of chemical process, or does it relate to the seaweed that is on sale in shops in Ireland? I would be very interested to have this clarified. thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-5580580636371570522010-08-13T12:52:33.625-04:002010-08-13T12:52:33.625-04:00Thanks for the post.
A graduate student in Harva...Thanks for the post. <br /><br />A graduate student in Harvard's History of Science department wrote this paper on carrageenan:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.scdrecipe.com/blog/archive/2010/08/11/carrageenan-and-acceptance-food-additive-toxicity/" rel="nofollow">Carrageenan and the Acceptance of Food Additive Toxicity, 1950-2000</a> <br /><br />It's shows the tug of war between science and industry--and gives another reason to avoid carrageenan.r. prasadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13758209517895275399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-66177024443197101712010-04-28T15:19:05.266-04:002010-04-28T15:19:05.266-04:00Link to Felix's article:
http://www.geniessen-...Link to Felix's article:<br />http://www.geniessen-im-optimum.de/carrageen/lelumariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16910112540690959953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-80641644185950307632010-04-03T15:37:19.862-04:002010-04-03T15:37:19.862-04:00There are three types of carrageenan, one of those...There are three types of carrageenan, one of those is known to be very dangerous as you have said. The other two havent been proven dangerous, and although the carrageenan that we eat is made trough a chemical process rather than the type that has been used for hundred of years in ireland, i dont really think there is a reason to freak out! (Only if you are allergic of course, but it still seams a better alternative than gelatin plus also has different properties to be useful)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-60085594542559831882010-03-14T18:48:03.217-04:002010-03-14T18:48:03.217-04:00Felix, I wish I could read your site! Your Englis...Felix, I wish I could read your site! Your English is very good.<br />Thank you. Yes, they should leave the cream alone :)Bixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06263963508785739508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-25629778325056605072010-03-13T12:05:02.224-05:002010-03-13T12:05:02.224-05:00Hi,
this is a great post. I took the freedom of co...Hi,<br />this is a great post. I took the freedom of copying a few of the links for one of my own posts.<br />Eventually, the last big creamery on the German market stopped producing carrageenan-less cream. There are only few regional suppliers left. A shame.<br />Cheers,<br />FelixFelix Olschewskihttp://www.geniessen-im-optimum.denoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-37671976985961419972010-01-21T11:27:07.100-05:002010-01-21T11:27:07.100-05:00I get coconut milk at a local international foods ...I get coconut milk at a local international foods store. Also at this store is soy milk.<br />Interestingly, in those products from other countries, I've yet to see carrageenan on the label. Not even agar. (I don't like not buying local but at least it supports a locally owned business.)<br /><br />Scholarly sociology articles that I've read about this pretty much state that carrageenan production supports over half of the economics in the Phillipines with the U.S. sales as 85% !<br />It's sad that if we stopped adding things to food for the absurd reasons they do for carrageenan like "mouth feel" or "avoiding freezer burn" -- that a whole country would practically be in financial crisis.<br /><br />The most annoying part is walking in to the health foods Co-op and seeing all these signs about the products being "gluten free" or other helpful non-allergen products... and then carrageenan being in most of it. Umm, "natural"? Riiight. <br />The best quote I've found about the "natural" issue:<br /><br /> "Carrageenan is about as wholesome as monosodium glutamate<br />(MSG), which is extracted from rice, and can equally be<br />considered natural. Aspartame (NutraPoison) is also natural,<br />as it is extracted from decayed plant matter that has been<br />underground for millions of years (oil). So too are many<br />other substances such as carrageenan that can also be<br />classified by FDA and USDA as wholesome and natural<br />food additives.<br /> "Just because something comes from a natural source does<br />not mean that it is safe. The small black dots in the<br />eyes of potatoes contain substances that are instantly<br />fatal if eaten. Got poison? You will if you eat the<br />black dots on the "eyes" of potatoes."<br />From: http://www.notmilk.com/carageenan.htmllelumariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16910112540690959953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-6648685271182003892010-01-21T09:43:09.285-05:002010-01-21T09:43:09.285-05:00As I started reading this article, I thought that ...As I started reading this article, I thought that I would suggest the new So Dairy Coconut Milk by Turtle Mountain, but decided I'd better check the ingr. list before doing so....sure enough, there in the otherwise innocuous list was Carageenan. The company will be hearing from me, and I guess I, too, will have to return to almond milk!kimmiewimmiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12979129693184954032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-64138381208520830142010-01-20T12:12:14.935-05:002010-01-20T12:12:14.935-05:00I have a carrageenan allergy and, I appreciate thi...I have a carrageenan allergy and, I appreciate this entry and your research.<br /><br />Tobacman, from the newer things I've read, still stands by her words & research -- even though the FDA now considers carrageenan GRAS... which is sad.<br /><br />Thanks again.lelumariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16910112540690959953noreply@blogger.com