tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post2856922075746295392..comments2024-02-12T05:30:13.488-05:00Comments on Fanatic Cook: T. Colin Campbell: "Let There Be No Doubt: Cows Milk Protein Is An Exceptionally Potent Cancer Promoter"Bixhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06263963508785739508noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-55323804193951638282014-06-15T17:47:25.536-04:002014-06-15T17:47:25.536-04:00Hi,
The statement:
"Wheat and soy proteins ...Hi,<br /><br />The statement:<br /> "Wheat and soy proteins for example did not stimulate cancer development and when wheat protein, which is deficient in the amino acid lysine, was replenished with lysine, it acted just like casein." <br /><br />Does this mean that if I'm on a whole food, plant based vegan diet and I supplement with Lysine that it would promote cancer?<br /><br />Supplementing with Lysine may not be a part of a true whole food philosophy but I would appreciate anyone's view on if taking lysine would promote cancer on this diet.<br /><br />Is the statement above referring to supplemental lysine in addition to wheat or did they artificially somehow increase the lysine amino acid in the wheat protein molecule?? And so, therefore, different than a diet with supplemental lysine?<br /><br />- CrystenaCrystenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01021393747156651075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-41210426270141533682014-06-15T17:42:57.474-04:002014-06-15T17:42:57.474-04:00Hi,
The statement:
"Wheat and soy protein...Hi, <br /><br />The statement:<br /> "Wheat and soy proteins for example did not stimulate cancer development and when wheat protein, which is deficient in the amino acid lysine, was replenished with lysine, it acted just like casein." <br /><br />Does this mean that if I'm on a whole food, plant based vegan diet and I supplement with Lysine that it would promote cancer?<br /><br />Supplementing with Lysine may not be a part of a true whole food philosophy but I would appreciate your view on if taking lysine would promote cancer on this diet.<br /><br />Thanks<br />- CrystenaCrystenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01021393747156651075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-75803643014288733562011-01-11T06:22:35.378-05:002011-01-11T06:22:35.378-05:00No way. I'll have to look that up. I don'...No way. I'll have to look that up. I don't really know much about Mercola except whenever you try to read his articles there's a sign-up flash screen in the way.Bixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06263963508785739508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-76434190009339463532011-01-10T22:27:20.374-05:002011-01-10T22:27:20.374-05:00Just saw an article in Consumer Reports calling Dr...Just saw an article in Consumer Reports calling Dr. Mercola a fraud.Angela and Melindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01595787896658046091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-48943179937037826512011-01-07T20:04:36.603-05:002011-01-07T20:04:36.603-05:00If this were Facebook, I would "like" yo...If this were Facebook, I would "like" your comment!Angela and Melindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01595787896658046091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-72242747301404645882011-01-07T20:03:56.083-05:002011-01-07T20:03:56.083-05:00That's great to know--thanks Bix! Whew, I'...That's great to know--thanks Bix! Whew, I'm relieved.Angela and Melindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01595787896658046091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-5440324429149097892011-01-07T08:23:44.448-05:002011-01-07T08:23:44.448-05:00Campbell found that a high protein intake promotes...Campbell found that a high protein intake promotes cancer. Animal foods are rich in protein. Plants foods while they contain protein are not as rich as animal foods:<br /><br />3 ounces of tuna have about 20 grams of protein.<br />3 ounces of cheddar 21g.<br />3 ounces of beef tenderloin 24g.<br /><br />3 ounces of kidney beans 4g.<br />1 cup of rice 4g.<br />1 cup of spaghetti 8g.<br />1 cup of quinoa 8g.<br /><br />All of the above contain the amino acid lysine.<br /><br />The issue is the quantity of protein. Eating a diet of minimally-processed plant foods, however you mix and match them, will generally provide less protein than a diet that contains animal foods.Bixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06263963508785739508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-73104004212161193752011-01-06T19:37:47.131-05:002011-01-06T19:37:47.131-05:00Both of those essays are very interesting. I can ...Both of those essays are very interesting. I can see the points he's making about possible industry connections of WAPF, for instance. Given the success of his book, I don't see why he even bothers to refute such critics--I agree that Sally Fallon is not a very good nutritionist, and I'd be a little leery of following some of the recipes in her book. <br /><br />But what these essays did not answer was my specific question about what he meant in his comment about wheat and lysine ("Wheat and soy proteins for example did not stimulate cancer development and when wheat protein, which is deficient in the amino acid lysine, was replenished with lysine, it acted just like casein."). I understand that most vegetable sources are not complete proteins, and I understand that you can supplement them (or eat them w/ a "complementary protein") in such a way that the combination becomes a complete protein (like beans and rice, if I remember correctly). So is he saying that ANY complete protein--even one that is vegetable rather than animal in origin, like wheat--causes cancer? If so, would we would have to be very careful, even as vegans, how we combine foods in our meals? Would we have to avoid non-animal sources of complete protein like quinoa? I'm asking this in all seriousness, as it seems to be what he is suggesting when he says that adding lysine to lysine-deficient wheat makes it "act just like casein."Angela and Melindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01595787896658046091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-27947554216915843642011-01-05T19:27:53.614-05:002011-01-05T19:27:53.614-05:00Thanks for the resources, Bix!Thanks for the resources, Bix!Angela and Melindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01595787896658046091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-55523281045852057582011-01-05T18:05:30.165-05:002011-01-05T18:05:30.165-05:00You convinced me that beans were simple to prepare...You convinced me that beans were simple to prepare, and I eat them nearly every day.<br /><br />I've missed my beans this week - too many crazy events in my life right now, but I skipped yoga so I could put some on the stove. Yum.virginiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08604479479889473638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-54207742072173127892011-01-05T15:30:24.846-05:002011-01-05T15:30:24.846-05:00Yes, Melinda, Campbell found that a high protein i...Yes, Melinda, Campbell found that a high protein intake, in excess of that needed for growth, promotes cancer.<br /><br />You may find these helpful:<br /><br />http://www.tcolincampbell.org/courses-resources/article/animal-protein-as-a-carcinogen/<br /><br />http://www.vegsource.com/articles2/campbell_china_response.htmBixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06263963508785739508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-56006312379300251102011-01-05T14:02:18.357-05:002011-01-05T14:02:18.357-05:00Two things: first, I don't understand what he...Two things: first, I don't understand what he's saying about wheat protein. I understand that it's incomplete, but I don't understand what he means when he says "Wheat and soy proteins for example did not stimulate cancer development and when wheat protein, which is deficient in the amino acid lysine, was replenished with lysine, it acted just like casein." Does he mean that the wheat protein becomes carcinogenic like casein?<br /><br />I also wish Campbell had footnoted his response to Mercola and WAPF. Would like to see specific instances of commercial compromise on the part of grass-fed promoters, as in this comment: "...I have often wondered about the motivations of those people who promote grass-fed animal agriculture. When I look a little more closely, I can find either commercially compromised interests and/or a deep and very personal reluctance to find fault with animal based food products."<br /><br />It's hard for me to agree w/ that last (which itself seems somewhat subjective on Campbell's part) w/o seeing specifics.<br /><br />But it's still a very interesting essay--thanks for posting!Angela and Melindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01595787896658046091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-2683425000756046342011-01-05T10:57:01.172-05:002011-01-05T10:57:01.172-05:00Beans are where it's at. Think I'll make ...Beans are where it's at. Think I'll make some hummus. I cannot go the rest of my life w/o cheese, but moderate the intake at least. Interesting re organic vs industrial and grass-fed vs feed-lot.Angela and Melindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01595787896658046091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-39401981393513999572011-01-04T13:21:19.430-05:002011-01-04T13:21:19.430-05:00shaun, you couldn't have convinced me 5 years ...shaun, you couldn't have convinced me 5 years ago I'd be eating beans every day. Oh ... how things change. Canned, dried, peas, lentils, anything I can get my hands on.Bixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06263963508785739508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8472697.post-91193748788778369002011-01-04T10:22:41.582-05:002011-01-04T10:22:41.582-05:00Pass the beans please.
shaunPass the beans please. <br /><br />shauncaulfieldkidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05220688207706880140noreply@blogger.com